tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3852422397272068136.post5804484062660304827..comments2023-12-26T17:10:25.915-06:00Comments on Muddling through Mayhem: No Child Left Behind.marythemomhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08205319256573120866noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3852422397272068136.post-12708900177002742892010-05-28T09:23:02.770-05:002010-05-28T09:23:02.770-05:00I'd still probably report it to the principal ...I'd still probably report it to the principal and the school district. I've dealt with too many teachers who let kids slide. I hear all the time how great my son is doing and how much he's learning, but NONE of his scores reflect it. They're pushing him to do grade level work, and insist that he is doing just fine with it, but he's still getting failing grades. Just yesterday, he came home and proudly announced he's passed off all his times tables through 12. Great! That's awesome! What's 6x8? Silence. Then he starts counting on his fingers and still gives me the wrong answer. Sometimes he even says 14 (6+8). There's clearly no mastery of the subject, let alone basic foundational comprehension...but he's still passing them off! I really don't think it does kids any favors to let them slide through. If they really do understand the concept, great, give them credit...but let's cut with the pretending.Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08444891084585965661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3852422397272068136.post-78265654057458461992010-05-27T19:01:56.774-05:002010-05-27T19:01:56.774-05:00well, having been a teacher all those years, let m...well, having been a teacher all those years, let me play devil's advocate for a second.<br /><br />I've had many students that were capable of work but refused to do it due to behavior issues. I've always talked with these students and told them how to ammend their ways. When these particular students have learning needs, I also find ways to demonstrate that the student is indeed learning. It's called differentiated teaching. I document the crap out of it, why I'm doing it, how it proves that the student is meeting the standards, etc.<br /><br />as it pertains to late and/or unfinished assignments, I grade every student using rubrics. If a student has done a portion of the work and scored on the rubrics, that's the grade they receive, even if I never got a completed assignment. Here's why: with students like these, I found absolute failure became a self fulfilling prophecy. Many times I'd get the students again for a different class the following year and I felt the need to create a sound relationship as well.<br /><br />As it pertains to extra credit - these were assignments that went above and beyond the original assignments I gave. They were extra credit opportunities available to all students in the class, were not ammendable, had specific deadlines and were not offered again. I typically gave students two extra credit opportunities a quarter.<br /><br />When I had students on the cusp of pass/fail, I had a stop gap measure for that too. In my grade book I also made marks about behavior, attitude, attendance, etc. It was a 10 point scale with either a 10, 7, 5 or 0 awarded. I assessed these scores for students on the cusp of a letter grade, making a quantifiable analysis as to whether or not I felt a student was worthy of an upgrade or in some cases, a pass/fail.<br /><br />I do understand your concern about Bear getting by with failing but since his exam score was a pass, as an educator, I'd say that demonstrates understanding of the material/meeting the standards and I probably would have done something similar as his teacher did. In education, failure usually boils down to the standards/comprehension and yes to Miz Kizzle's complaint, that means many dullards squeak through. Remember, the average IQ is only 100 with a derivation of two points on either side (90-110)Integrity Singerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09196095126605205738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3852422397272068136.post-84028691812756323092010-05-27T15:29:39.678-05:002010-05-27T15:29:39.678-05:00Yes, GB's Mom is right. Report it to the distr...Yes, GB's Mom is right. Report it to the district superintendent with a note attached. I don't know the teacher's motivation. If she doesn't have tenure she may be afraid that too many failing student will reflect poorly on her. Even if she is tenured, I've heard that in some states, teachers are somehow "blamed" for the laziness or inability of their students.<br />I think that's shameful. If a child chooses not to work then he or she should receive a failing grade. Enough Fs and they should have to repeat class and possibly the grade.<br />When I was in school it wasn't unheard of for students to be "left back." Now it appears to be relatively uncommon. I know of only one child from my three children's school experiences who had to repeat a grade.<br />I'm aghast at the "No Child Left Behind" practice. On paper it may look sort of okay but in reality it allows incompetent students to pass and eventually go into the working world with inadequate skills. I can't tell you how many store clerks I've dealt with who lack the ability to do simple addition and subtraction. I'll tell them if there are three rows of five items in a box, for instance, that that means there are a total of fifteen items. They look at me openmouthed, as if I had done a mysterious and incomprehensible act. This is while they're laboriously counting the items one by one and losing count... several times. <br />It's not only lower-level workers who can't read, write or add. I've worked with a few law school graduates who have absolutely no grasp of grammar and whose reasoning power is feeble. How they manage to graduate from law school is beyond me. After a few more decades of this nonsense our country is going to be in an awful mess.<br />So yes, I share your frustration.Miz Kizzlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05650747741395559803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3852422397272068136.post-9484020625097127622010-05-27T12:45:24.699-05:002010-05-27T12:45:24.699-05:00Report this to your district Superintendent with a...Report this to your district Superintendent with a note that if it can't be remedied locally, you will go to the State Ed people. Superintendents do not like that.GB's Momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08866513131959998883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3852422397272068136.post-47760776080935236502010-05-27T12:24:39.898-05:002010-05-27T12:24:39.898-05:00Is she allowed to let him fail? What happens if he...Is she allowed to let him fail? What happens if he fails? Does she get in trouble somehow? There is obviously a reason she's doing this and it's not because she's a nice person, etc.Juleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17260044140161891802noreply@blogger.com